Where are the cabin roof fixing bolts on a 38ft Commander

Hi, I am totally new to ChrisCraft and in the last month purchased a 38ft Express for a re-power project. I want to take the helm cabin roof off (the fly came off for transportation), I have found the aft set of bolts but where are the bolts above the front windows? Thanks

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I think you will need to remove the front window frames to get the top off

Ive repowered a few.  WHY would you want to remove the roof on an express? 

I hire a boom truck and snatch them easily.

When you have an overhead traveling shop crane at your disposal it is a lot safer than using a boom truck. Thank you for your question.

Hi Simon! 

Thank you for clarifying! In that case one other method I have used is an I beam with an overhead crane. See picture. This wasn't my choice but the yard insisted something about OSHA rules ( lah blah blah) But wanted to share that. You just might be really opening a can of worms taking the roof and windshield off. 

Why do you say that? I’ve been thinking about taking my roof off and dismantling the windshield to rebed/ replace the seals and a couple cracked panes. Looks like the hard top on my 31 is held to the windshield by a combination of the interior trim, screws through the top of the frame, and some sort of adhesive/ sealant.

Lee H Dahlen said:

You just might be really opening a can of worms taking the roof and windshield off. 

I know of people who have removed Hard tops for transport (Bigger boats 42-45) and windshields and cracked glass doing so, and couldn't get it all bedded back without a leak or two in the cabin. I'm just sharing info. Proceed as you wish!  

Lee

Hmm, well the reason I’m considering taking the windshield apart is I already have cracked glass and leaks. It’s not a project I look forward to at all but think it needs to be done eventually, all the seals are dried out. I would not do it just to remove the engines though. 

Lee H Dahlen said:

I know of people who have removed Hard tops for transport (Bigger boats 42-45) and windshields and cracked glass doing so, and couldn't get it all bedded back without a leak or two in the cabin. I'm just sharing info. Proceed as you wish!  

Lee

On my 35 express we set up a simple gantry across the engines. We lifted them up then closed the floor hatches and set the engines on a 4 wheel dolly and rolled them aft.

Then we picked them up with a forklift 

In your case you can substitute the forklift with your overhead crain 

The key to removing the roof is the removal of the front opening windows. In my case I removed the glass them removed the opening frame and hinge. These boats were built to last, 47 years after construction and it is still all held together. The removal of the window hinge requires the use of a 90 degree bend Philips screw driver, and the careful use of a wide blade chisel between the hinge extrusion and the window frame, applying the chisel in the joint not visible when the window is closed. Once the hinge is out a series of screws are exposed which fasten the outer window frame to a wooden board moulded into the roof assembly. The side windows were removed and the runners, the front runner hides a bracket connecting the window frame to the roof, the screws need to be undone. After undoing the obvious bolts that connect the rear supports a chisel is required to separate the adhesive  / resin joint and a small battery operated skill saw to cut through a series of screws that are not otherwise accessible. Roof lifted off from the side by forklift truck.

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