Doug (Old Buddy) and I went today to tear down the windshield on My Other Honey. Big nasty job. We ran into Tom Crossman(Classic 69). He was buffing her out for spring. It will be awhile before I get to the buffing stage. Always great to see fellow CCCC members. Lots of work left to do, but the shield is down. Thanks Doug .

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Somebody(s) gonna want some documentation of all that you encountered along the way. There have been many asking about this over the years for both transport reasons as well as leak chasing! 

And I know you didn't ask, but I've been doing some window work lately. The word on the street these days for bedding windows and hatches is:

Sikaflex 291 or 3M 4000.   Used both and both work very well!

Thanks Lee,

We will take photos along the way. The side supports under the window support beams are a mess. Nothing left there. As you know from being in her in a rain storm, she was a bit on the leaky side. This should tighten up that. I plan on using Sikaflex  in the LC or long cure version. Q, gave me that tip. He has done this job and has been a great resource. Stay tuned. Hope all is well.

I sent a blue print from Chris Craft with instuctions on the WS  take down for a 1967-chris 42-Double Cabin. Char downloaded into the "files".       Bob

Thanks Bob. I used it for reference

I recognize that view! Did the same last winter and I am currently cutting new mohagoney ply panels to replace those rotted ones. I used white oak to replace the runner. Use lots of Sika and lots of clamps!! If you broke screws on the forward wind shield you can release the threaded plates that some of them screw into from the salon and just tap them through and vicegrip them out of the plates. then just reuse them.

Mr. Shriber I'm new to the club  and am probably screwing up this message but, if it gets through to you I would appreciate whatever you used as reference material to attack the windshield teardown to stop the 42's water  problem.  My theory is that as I get older and my friends do also we  use the rail around the aft deck gate to steady and pull ourselves on board.  This causes the stanchions to shift and raises the stanchion pad which breaks / cracks  the bedding compound and in comes the rain water.  I've rebeded the pads around the aft deck more times than I can remember and it seems to be a temporary solution.  However could you  share with me what you discovered since your reply of November 1, 2018 to Mr. Byron Smith on the subject through your most recent efforts to chase down this  42' leak.  Thanks.  Xhafer Orhan  (I answer to Jeff)   

Jeff (Xhafer),

I guess the answer to your question lies in where your leaks are. I understand how you might think the stanchions are leaking. I would be thinking that it is coming from the windshield. Almost all of the leaks on mine came from that area. They find their way to the salon and the aft cabin. Search the web for Chris craft 42 commander leaks and you will get to Quentins page. He documents the process very well. The worst part is that the headliner in the salon has to come down. You can see from my photos that the amount of rot in the support boards was incredible. There was no dimensional lumber left at all. Just splinters. I will keep posting photos as I go. You can always PM me or call. Are you in GP?




Thanks Sterling.  Look forward to seeing your photos.  Yup I'm in GP.  SCOJEN my 42 is in heated storage at Jefferson Beach so at least I'll be warm as I try again to stop the leaks.
Thanks for the info.  I’ve been lucky on salon water.  Only comes in occasionally from the fittings that hold down the hand rails on top of the main cabin. Bed them down and good for years.  The aft cabin is frustrating because doesn’t leak for the longest time and then “opens up” with a light rain. Sometimes over the starboard bunk sometimes over the port and ,of course,sometimes over both. I removed the ceiling in the aft head once when the leak was over the starboard side and while I couldn’t reach the leak from there I could see that the backing / support wood was wet and dripping right under the Stanchion immediately forward of the gate to the aft deck.  But big deal I already knew that is where water was coming out over the bunk no help in finding where it was coming in. Anxious to look at the photos.      Just found Quentin's photos.  My, my what a find.  Thanks Again  Jeff........Jeff……….  
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Sterling Shriber said:

Jeff (Xhafer),

I guess the answer to your question lies in where your leaks are. I understand how you might think the stanchions are leaking. I would be thinking that it is coming from the windshield. Almost all of the leaks on mine came from that area. They find their way to the salon and the aft cabin. Search the web for Chris craft 42 commander leaks and you will get to Quentins page. He documents the process very well. The worst part is that the headliner in the salon has to come down. You can see from my photos that the amount of rot in the support boards was incredible. There was no dimensional lumber left at all. Just splinters. I will keep posting photos as I go. You can always PM me or call. Are you in GP?




Jeff, 

The previous owner of mine left her without an aft curtain for years. I also notice that all of my stanchions have been removed and rebed. That is probably why. I am assuming you are talking about the stanchions on the upper deck, the ones that mount into the cap rail around the upper aft deck area.  I have an aft curtain that keeps my aft deck covered when I am not on her so I have no leaks from those at all. I do however, have lots of leaks everywhere else:).

I have seen your boat when I am at GPYC. She is one of 2 on the club wall up there. One of them is a diesel boat. Both beautiful!

Sterling,

Yes it is the upper aft deck over the bunks.  And unfortunately I don't have a cover over it.  I'll just have to keep hunting for the source(s).  I've only been at it on SCOJEN for 44 years.  Going to look at the Quentin's photos now.  Thanks again  Jeff..............

Sterling Shriber said:

Jeff, 

The previous owner of mine left her without an aft curtain for years. I also notice that all of my stanchions have been removed and rebed. That is probably why. I am assuming you are talking about the stanchions on the upper deck, the ones that mount into the cap rail around the upper aft deck area.  I have an aft curtain that keeps my aft deck covered when I am not on her so I have no leaks from those at all. I do however, have lots of leaks everywhere else:).

I have seen your boat when I am at GPYC. She is one of 2 on the club wall up there. One of them is a diesel boat. Both beautiful!

OK, here is an update:

Things are moving along. Fairly major set back this weekend when we discovered more extensive rot in two large pieces of the seat on the port side. The seat and the bulkhead in front of it had to be removed.

I did get the cap rails patched with CPES and laminating resin mixed with mahogany saw dust.

We also test fit the new wood for under the windshield supports. The second picture is the only two significant pieces of the old wood.

This is a photo of all the fasteners we have removed so far,

Stay tuned. More to follow as the fun continues:)

Geez Louise, looks like my life, nice project Scott, any body want to buy a shop???

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