Or---- Farewell to flat cap blues !! At least for 283F & 327F engine owners. Owners of 27's, 31's, & 35's with these engines know (or should know) that the flat type distributor cap on these engines is out of production and existing stock of these caps has dried up --- In other words, if you need one you are in a world of hurt. New distributors are an expensive answer, but then what about the mechanical drive original tachs? No matter how you approach this problem, it is gonna require a serious outlay of cash :-(
Three members of the club collaborated  to solve this problem. Tim Gressett of Florida started the ball rolling by coming up with a unique replacement using a Chrysler cap. Chris Hebert of Texas supplied pictures of his 31 with a different cap and did some subsequent research and came up with a Sierra cap & rotor number that could be made to work with some modifications, and I, from the frozen north, did a little design & engineering work on the modifications. I machined 4 spacers to use on these caps and then had a machine shop make 40 more.The finished result is currently on one one of Tim's engines and is running fine.
The club has decided to offer these in a kit to interested members who need a spare or new cap. The price is very nominal, and will generate a small profit for the club which will help keep us dues free. There is even a video showing how to install the modification kit on a distributor.
The whole development story behind this, while lengthy, is an interesting example of the value of collaboration and is a PDF attachment to this post.  FAREWELL to distributor cap blues !! :-) 
All the details, video and ordering information are available by clicking on this link:
PS -- If you read the development story in the link above or the attachment to this post, remember to scroll down all the way to the end of the PDF file.
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I Just put those new caps on both engines.  Amazing response.  Almost every issue I’ve had on these engines has centered on those darned caps.  At least now I can start each season off fresh!
Again, Thanks.  Daniel Neher

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greets.

am i too late on this?   I don't want to be crabby, but i need to be! 

Hi Daniel,

The special offer of the one is no longer available - Only one available - special offer if ordering only one http://commanderclub.com/forum/topics/more-stuff-from-morland-s-sho...

We apologize for not updating  the post.  However, we still have the modification kits available that do not have the cap and rotor.  Each kit modifies one distributor.

The order details are at the bottom of this link:http://commanderclub.com/page/distributor-cap-conversion-kit-327f-283f


Daniel Neher said:

greets.

am i too late on this?   I don't want to be crabby, but i need to be! 

I did the cap modification and installed the new cap and the specified new rotor. Worked great for 10 miles then problems. Backfiring, engine stalled, wouldn't re-start.

A previous owner eliminated the points in my distributors and installed the Pertronix Electronics module. I see in an earlier post of this topic Chris Hebert stated he did not go with the Sierra rotor but stuck with the rotor that comes with the Pertronix conversion.

Does anyone have knowledge on this? I can't get back to the boat for a couple of days to compare components but my rotor became very loose causing misfire issues.

One of the standard failure modes for Pertronix from my experience.  I had one fail like this, had someone crank the starter as I rotated the distributor, it fired and ran about 2 plugs off the mark.  I went back to points.  Stbd engine is using a full electronic  ignition system.

Tim does your boat have the 327f engines?  If so, what full electronics ignition did you go with?

My engines have over 200 hours on them with the Pertronix.  I have put on 110 of those hours.

Once upon a time it had the 327F, since replaced with 350's the port is standard point ignition the starboard is a marinized crate engine with a marine distributor.  I doubt if there is a difference between the SBC marine distributors of any era.

I have 327F’s. I replaced both distributors with Delco Voyagers 4 years ago. Been very happy with them. The F models take standard Chevy V8 distributors. You will loose your mechanical tachs though. 

Steve Riley said:

Tim does your boat have the 327f engines?  If so, what full electronics ignition did you go with?

My engines have over 200 hours on them with the Pertronix.  I have put on 110 of those hours.

Edit/ update. The kit to make using a readily available cap fit on my distributor worked perfect. I feel that either we didn't have the new rotor on tight and it came loose or the rotor was defective and failed.  A new rotor was installed and so far no problems.
 
Steve Riley said:

I did the cap modification and installed the new cap and the specified new rotor. Worked great for 10 miles then problems. Backfiring, engine stalled, wouldn't re-start.

A previous owner eliminated the points in my distributors and installed the Pertronix Electronics module. I see in an earlier post of this topic Chris Hebert stated he did not go with the Sierra rotor but stuck with the rotor that comes with the Pertronix conversion.

Does anyone have knowledge on this? I can't get back to the boat for a couple of days to compare components but my rotor became very loose causing misfire issues.

When do you expect them back in stock?

Thanks

Outofpocket

Hi George,

We don't have a date from our manufacturer yet.  We will do a broadcast message and update the website when they are available.  Sorry for the wait.

George Davidson said:

When do you expect them back in stock?

Thanks

Outofpocket

Hi George!  We now have 42 kits in stock.  

George Davidson said:

When do you expect them back in stock?

Thanks

Outofpocket

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