Our fleet continues expanding, and I need to figure out a way to haul some water toys. Mainly dealing with a one-man kayak and a kids kayak. With no flybridge, the foredeck is not an option. The swim platform isn’t big enough for both. Last year they got lashed to the inboard side of the forward rail. That was better, but they were still kind of in the way. I’m toying with the top of the hardtop this year.

I’ve been mulling over various tie down options, incorporating pool noodles, building something out of PVC, etc...anyone have any ideas? Pics would be awesome if you have a way of doing this. Google gives me nothing other than some racks that hang over the side - not crazy about those.

Appreciate any advice you all may have.

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Google "Dingy Sling". I am considering getting one for my R.I.B. to hang off the swim platform. I have seen these used to carry kayaks outboard of the rails. Just don't dock on that side. I have known people to put them on the hardtop

Matt, I believe you also have a ‘35 express, correct? When I do get one it will be mounted on the hardtop roof with a car rack that is designed to mount to and SUV type roof rails. The existing chrome rails can serve as the SUV rails. I already have a rack like that with accessories that cradle a kayak with ratcheting straps. I may have to buy new crossbars, as I think they may be a little to short to span the distance between the rails of my ‘35. I suppose you could also mount them lower on the foredeck rails too. 

Thanks guys. I like the concept of that dinghy sling, but think it might look odd slung across the entirely of my hardtop. 

Bruce - you’re hitting on the problem I’ve run into - there are no cross bars on those handrails. Every rack setup I’ve seen would have the kayaks mounted port/stbd vice fore/aft. 

What about something like this:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Attwood-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier-Gray/22100244

They’re foam blocks made out of a material that prevents slippage. Wonder if I put those down, the kayaks on top, then ran nylon straps handrail-to-handrail, wonder if that would adequately hold fore/aft too.

I just found this too..

It’s just those vertical bars and they mount to a round or square bar. Maybe I put those on the handrail, tuck he pic, that the kayak (laid down) as close against as I can, then angle that bar toward the center of the hardtop. Given the length it appears to be in the pic, maybe that could give enough leverage to hold everything down. Mmmm...

I have used these on car roofs. Never considered them on them on my boat for obvious reasons. 

There is company called Kover Klamp that makes a customizable cover system for winter storage. Maybe four of these could be used to add crossbars to your rails. 

My Barrecrafter rack mounts to the longitudinal rails only. They clamp to those rails. It's also all aluminum. It is a rack that has a lot of accessories available at the time I bought it. The cross bars are the rack, the accessories mount to the crossbars. I initially bought it for skis. I don't think they are still in business. I have to think there are others that make a similar rack system. 

Matt Cowles said:

Thanks guys. I like the concept of that dinghy sling, but think it might look odd slung across the entirely of my hardtop. 

Bruce - you’re hitting on the problem I’ve run into - there are no cross bars on those handrails. Every rack setup I’ve seen would have the kayaks mounted port/stbd vice fore/aft. 

What about something like this:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Attwood-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier-Gray/22100244

They’re foam blocks made out of a material that prevents slippage. Wonder if I put those down, the kayaks on top, then ran nylon straps handrail-to-handrail, wonder if that would adequately hold fore/aft too.

Have a guy that makes SS railings make some cross bars. You should be able to use common SS hardware to mount a cross bar to the rails. I think mine are straight enough to slip the hardware onto the existing rails. Once you get the crossbars, mounting the kayak cradles should be easy peasy. There are options to drill holes to mount cradles, but that would be a path I would not take. 

Or this lifeline pole mount. https://www.storeyourboard.com/stainless-steel-kayak-boat-rack-rail...

Or these for temporary use. https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--deluxe-universal-kayak-...

West also has some other SS cradle options. I see several lifeline pole options out there as well, I would be concerned on ripping those off while docking or rafting up though. Perhaps mount in the bow on the inside if there is room?

Thanks guys!

Bruce - we tried those options on the rail, But it causes issues with visibility, mobility, or as you suspected docking/rafting.

Matt,

Lots of options from these guys.  https://www.austinkayak.com/category/213001/Kayak-Carriers

I added cross bars to a regular boat trailer and there are all kinds of mount options for dinghys, kayaks, etc.  I uses these for a pram and a kayak.  -- https://www.austinkayak.com/Malone-SeaWing-Kayak-Carrier-MPG107MD/A...

This is the cross bar kit I used to add cross bars to a regular boat trailer -- https://www.austinkayak.com/Malone-MicroSport-Trailer-Cross-Bar-Kit...

There are other cross bar options here -- https://www.austinkayak.com/search?q=trailer%20cross%20bars

My advice would be to use a set of trailer or car cross bars (or have someone make you a set) and then pick from the dozens of carrier options to mount to those.

I am having the same issues on our 47, but we don't have any mounting points on the hardtop.

-Darin

Matt Cowles said:

Thanks guys!

Bruce - we tried those options on the rail, But it causes issues with visibility, mobility, or as you suspected docking/rafting.
Good resources - thanks Darin. At this point, I laid two pool noodles across the hardtop and put everything on those. It does’t look terrible, and seems to be holding ok. But if that plan fails me for some reason, it will be time for Plan B. My main concern at this point is appropriate drainage.

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