What do you think of a 1971 47 commander with painted teak decks, hates teak? Or hiding leaks?

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First of all Daniel,  the listing broker is a complete idiot.  Painted teak decks???  What a moron!  VA Yacht will not work with your broker?  That is more bull crap if I've ever heard it.  Splits used to be 70/30, then became 60/40 and in some cases 50/50 between a reputable selling and listing broker.  No engine room pictures?  Use a broker provided survey?  NEVER!!!!  I can see evidence of porthole and apparent stanchion water leaks in the photos of the aft guest stateroom.  I'm sure there is much more bad stuff to uncover.  I didn't bother to look closer. I see a rough nasty boat in the pictures.  Commanders are wonderful boats.  Contact a reputable broker to find you a nice one. You will be just as happy with a 41 or 45 as you will with a 47.  A 53 Hatteras is a great boat too,  but the ownership costs will be double to triple that of an old Commander.  An old 56 Matthews?  Great old boats but a financial nightmare to own as well.  When the ad says needs TLC...run away as fast as you can!    

I do not know the broker personally, but the owner of the outfit, Chuck Grice is very, VERY highly recommended by my yard. I’ve talked to him & find him to be a totally trustworthy human being with impeccable credentials. If anyone is truly interested, I wouldn’t hesitate to investigate.  If Parker doesn’t make sense, give Chuck a call...I’m certain he’ll sort out any questions to your satisfaction. 

(Recovering Commander owner) — Bruno

Atlantic Yacht Basin is an hour from me. If anyone wants 'eyes on glass', let me know (text me at 6033214931)

Jim

Hey Bruno.  Don't get me wrong.  Chuck Grice is indeed a very reputable guy.  The listing broker is who I take issue with.  Could be a younger broker with a lack of any older boat knowledge.  OR Daniel's broker might be the wrong guy to be working with.  I simply looked at the listing photos and didn't see a very nice boat.  That 47 in Annapolis that was just reduced to $49,900 here on Commander Club looks like a far nicer starting point.    

OOPS!  Deepest apology Commander Club Members!  I confused the Virginia 47 with another 47 I was aware of.  I took a closer look at the photos a little while ago on Yacht World,  and the Virginia boat doesn't look all that horrible.  Without stepping aboard and seeing them in person,  both the Virginia 47 and the Annapolis 47 appear about equal in both visual condition and price.  I am quite sorry about this.  Please forgive me.      



Paul Cavenaugh said:

OOPS!  Deepest apology Commander Club Members!  I confused the Virginia 47 with another 47 I was aware of.  I took a closer look at the photos a little while ago on Yacht World,  and the Virginia boat doesn't look all that horrible.  Without stepping aboard and seeing them in person,  both the Virginia 47 and the Annapolis 47 appear about equal in both visual condition and price.  I am quite sorry about this.  Please forgive me.      

Paul,

We all make mistakes and your apology is accepted.

No worries, didn’t want to see the baby thrown out with the bath water is all. It’s unfortunate there weren’t multiple seaworthy 47’s when we upgraded. Not sure the Admiral would’ve gone for another flush deck but I would liked to have made the pitch!

Happy hunting to all.

Paul Cavenaugh said:

Hey Bruno.  Don't get me wrong.  Chuck Grice is indeed a very reputable guy.  The listing broker is who I take issue with.  Could be a younger broker with a lack of any older boat knowledge.  OR Daniel's broker might be the wrong guy to be working with.  I simply looked at the listing photos and didn't see a very nice boat.  That 47 in Annapolis that was just reduced to $49,900 here on Commander Club looks like a far nicer starting point.    

Thank you for the input, and for your offer Jim. At this time I'm going to leave this one alone and continue the search.  Thanks again.

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