Would you give your hand at rebuilding a transmission? I'm thinking about it, these Paragons seem pretty simple, luckily I have a couple parts transmissions to play with and figure out how far down the rabbit hole I'm willing to go. 

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If you run into problems I know a guy that builds these in his sleep. I know in particular that the gaskets alone do NOT seal the bolted surfaces well and they leak even with a new set. On my recent rebuild he told me you need to use permatex anaerobic sealer on both sides of the paper gasket or it will leak for sure. He said he also filed all surfaces before reassembly. I would also recommend putting it on a dyno prior to replacing it in the boat. It is $200 well spent to know it won't need to come back out in your lifetime!

Hmm, pretty sure the guy I had build my other trans didn't use sealer. I like to use permatex aviation gasket maker on a lot of things, probably wouldn't hurt to do on this. I have an engine out of the boat I can test it on if I decide to do mine. Probably fully assemble one of those spares before I try it on a good transmission. 

glenn woudenberg said:

If you run into problems I know a guy that builds these in his sleep. I know in particular that the gaskets alone do NOT seal the bolted surfaces well and they leak even with a new set. On my recent rebuild he told me you need to use permatex anaerobic sealer on both sides of the paper gasket or it will leak for sure. He said he also filed all surfaces before reassembly. I would also recommend putting it on a dyno prior to replacing it in the boat. It is $200 well spent to know it won't need to come back out in your lifetime!

The rebuild is the easy part finding good useable parts like the pump and planetary case is what we found difficult sure a few folks have the parts but won't sell you the parts without doing a complete rebuild for you around 3 grand thats been my experience anyway

That's how I ended up with two spare transmissions. Needed a case when I had the last one rebuilt. Found 2 complete 283's with HF7's and bought the whole set. My guy took the best parts from all three transmissions and made one good one. 

chris said:

The rebuild is the easy part finding good useable parts like the pump and planetary case is what we found difficult sure a few folks have the parts but won't sell you the parts without doing a complete rebuild for you around 3 grand thats been my experience anyway

The Paragon is a very simple transmission and should be rebuildable by almost anyone that is even just slightly mechanical if you are so inclined.

As for the parts situation, there are alternatives to just replacing parts. The oil pump should be good for 10,000 hrs. unless a lot of crap went through it. Even if you have a pump that is scored up, there are options of repairing the pump ground surfaces and the pump housing. The reverse band can be relined by vendors specializing in that.

The parts that really are difficult to repair are the gear sets. These could be copied but at a cost for a small quantity run.

Not suggesting that every transmission is rebuildable but I do think that alternatives to the small supply of spare parts is not insurmountable in doing repairs.

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